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Commenting articles Edit

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Is the ability to comment articles, in a similar fashion to blog posts, really neccesary? I noticed it in the mainspace and I personally feel that it isn't required. GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 15:20, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it's necessary i think we should delete itGod of the sims 19:52, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

I have contacted Wikia to gain information on how to remove the feature as I'm not sure how to. GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 17:14, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
Okay, because that commenting problem was getting on my nerves.--♥DarthCookie♥♥Talk♥ 23:09, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
It seems Wikia haven't fully removed the function despite telling me via email that they have. GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 20:28, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Skin Edit

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Found the right skin.

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I changed the skin as the black one was too dark. I think that before we settle for an official skin, we should wait for the Wikia transition to the Oasis skin. GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 21:30, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'll try to find a lighter one.--♥DarthCookie♥♥Talk♥ 23:09, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

A New Idea? Edit

Maybe we should cover a little more than the Sims Medieval, I don't know what but just cover something else. This topic is too narrow, any thoughts?--♥DarthCookie♥♥Talk♥ 23:10, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

I'm up for covering other things in addition to The Sims Medieval. Hopefully, as more information is released about the game, we can get more visitors and make better articles. Right now, I have no idea what to cover. GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 19:01, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
We should cover more articles that are interesting.--♥DarthCookie♥♥Talk♥ 01:06, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reporting vandals, socks and username violations Edit

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Should we create a page for this so that users can report these issues for admins to look at or should we stick to users contacting an admin directly? GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 19:52, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, we should make a report page. I'll start working on it.--♥DarthCookie♥♥Talk♥ 01:02, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

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Achievements? Edit

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Achievements were enabled

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A new idea for achievements, the feature is currently disabled by default, so I can put in a request for it to be activated, anyone oppose or support this decision?--♥DarthCookie♥♥Talk♥ 01:34, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Support. I feel that if a user does something good for the Wiki, then they deserve some kind of reward. GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 16:01, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
Support. Same reason as above, and I want achievements.--♥DarthCookie♥♥Talk♥ 18:50, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
Support. I want achievements too. ---Guilherme Guerreiro 20:31, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
Achievements are enabled, discussion solved.--♥DarthCookie♥♥Talk♥ 08:05, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Oasis skin Edit

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As the Oasis skin has come online today on all of Wikia, we need to discuss the skin changes and the new logo as the current logo is not supported by the Oasis skin. GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 15:18, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Currently, there are menu problems with Oasis. I updated the Monaco sidebar today to show the Contact links. They show up OK in Monaco but there seems to be no link to the Oasis menu bar page (that I have found). GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 15:30, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
Admins, the Oasis menu is at MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation. Currently, the update is not working in Oasis despite this version being updated. GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 15:36, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I see the problem with that, we'll have to find a way to fix it, or just contact Wikia.

P.S. I just changed the theme to 'New Wikia Look', hope that did something for us.--♥DarthCookie♥♥Talk♥ 08:06, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

New Wikia Look is Oasis. I think that Wikia have got quite a bit of hate mail regarding the menu. I'd rather wait for them to release a staff blog on this as only having four things on the menu is annoying. GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 17:20, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it's like super annoying. And rest assured they have gotten quite a bit of hate mail. But I like the new skin, it's only that you can barely find your way around. And I'm so used to Monaco.--♥DarthCookie♥♥Talk♥ 17:28, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

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Menu Edit

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Menu issues are native to the skin. GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 15:05, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

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I have modified the Menu when it is seen with "New Wikia Look/Oasis" so that something about the game is visible. I have shoved the "Admin" stuff under "Community" for now but some things have been cut off. We need to discuss how to structure the menu so we can show both the Game and Community stuff together effectively. GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 17:02, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I think we should contact Wikia on how to do that. I'm sure they would know how.--♥DarthCookie♥♥Talk♥ 22:33, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Someone contact Wikia.--♥DarthCookie♥♥Talk♥ 06:40, October 17, 2010 (UTC)


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Like The Sims Wiki has, we should consider making a custom skin and logo for this Wiki. GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 17:02, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I used to make graphics, but my computer is extremely slow.--♥DarthCookie♥♥Talk♥ 22:35, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

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I made a logo that is fairly basic but we can improve it. GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 17:35, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Way to go, Georgio!--♥DarthCookie♥♥Talk♥ 06:37, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
I did make it on Paint. Though I am thinking of free-trialing something like Photoshop and make a better one on there. Thanks for the recognition though :) GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 17:10, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Use GIMP, it's a free program that I used to make the new logo.--♥DarthCookie♥♥Talk♥ 05:19, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Anyone good with templates? Edit

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There seems to be a problem with Template:Done.

If I write {{Done}} your text here, then this happens:

Template:Done "your text here"

Whereas if I write {{done}}"your text here", this happens:

Template:Done"your text here"

Anyone know how to fix this. The template currently has no protection on it so anyone is invited to edit. GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 17:43, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

I think I might be able to fix it.--♥DarthCookie♥♥Talk♥ 22:09, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Divide Tasks Edit

Hey everybody! This wiki has been growing a lot, and I thinks its time we organize now, to save problems for the future. I think we should "divide" 4 areas:


Including contests, Main Page, Polls and Newsletter


Including general template, infoboxes and userboxes

Think we can create a list somewhere and update the status. Interested cos I am starting on doing one for equipment but potentially can be generalized to all inventory items. I'll create the sections below, please add on. Spheris 04:34, March 31, 2011 (UTC)


Including promoting users, handling disputes, deletion requests and manual of style.


Including categories, grammar and spelling correction, sources, ect.

One person is in charge of each area. Other users can ask them for help, or they are the main updaters for that area.

Beurocrats are needed: We have DarthCookie, Guilherme and God Of Sims. I don't think we need a 4th, though its generally good to have 'crats for the greater management of the wiki. What do you all think? BobNewbie talkblog 18:29, November 28, 2010 (UTC)


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I don't think Bureaucrat request can be open for now. --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 18:39, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree. But what about the divisions? BobNewbie talkblog 18:56, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

The divisions can be split into three for the Bureaucrats, and the last one for an Administrator. The Bureaucrat requests should not be opened right now, we only need three Bureaucrats right now. But the Administrator requests can be opened. And there doesn't have to be just one person per section, I can take two sections, and someone else can take the others.--DarthCookie Talk 21:54, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think we need any more admins or bureaucrats for now - though this is the bureaucrats' decision. In regards with dividing tasks, I think it could work the same way that User tasks work (meaning we can select what we want to do and we can assist each other with these issues). GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 08:10, November 30, 2010 (UTC)
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Background Edit

As you may have noticed, I have customised the background of the Wiki. The problem here is that due to Wikia not allowing backgrounds to exceed 100KB in file size, the image is of very poor quality at a high resolution. The background resolution is approximately 1920x1080 pixels in JPEG format.

I think it is wise to say that if anyone wants to make a newer background that maybe pictures a couple of Sims and something else to do with the game, I'd strongly consider how you finally render the image file. I am currently working to improve the image quality but I won't be offended if anyone wants to change the background. GEORGIEGIBBONS talk contributions 19:40, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

I like the background. Nice work! BobNewbie talkblog 09:50, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Various suggestions Edit

Hi everyone, just wanted to make a few suggestions. :3

1. I see that the pictures used for traits so far are their full description window (an example is on Scholarly). I find this a bit impractical myself, an example of this is that it means users won't be able to copy the text if they for some reason should desire to do so. I created the page to the trait Wise myself to give an example how it may look like using an icon and the description as text instead of a full image for both. What do you guys think?

2. I'm sorry if I haven't looked closely enough, but is there a page with a dedicated to-do list for this wiki yet? It should be one, I use it quite a lot.

3. Do you have any template or what to call it for spoilers yet? I feel it would be nice to include the quest progression for each quests on their respective pages, however, this is obvious spoilers which are appreciated by some, hated by others. Should respect both parties.

Let's do our best with this wiki, I love this game, it deserves a good wiki. ^^ --ShadowTani 20:03, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much for improving the pages, but actually this wiki is going to be merged with Sims Wiki, but you can still improve them here since they are going to be exported to The Sims Wiki, and is there where you could create the pages instead of here but since they are going to be exported to there, there's no problem. Also I find it extremely difficult to take shots of traits images I don't know how to do it... Thank you. --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 20:49, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
I understand, makes sense. Thank you for your reply, I'll just add the basic informations for now then. :3 In regards to the pictures I myself grab them using the print screen button since pictures taken with C will remove any Interface graphics from the image. I could upload most if not all the icons myself though, it's not a problem. :3 --ShadowTani 21:13, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
I fully support idea 1, that would be consistent with Sims 3 layout used for traits. As for to do list, I think you should just do it and I would be glad to follow the suit. No opinion on idea 3. Chabbrik 13:10, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Experimental emulated Object Oriented pages Edit

A sample is at Crude Longsword and Crude Plate Mail. The infobox there is not "hardcoded", but generated by simply passing the specially prepared object page name: {{infobox equipment2|Crude Longsword}}. With this framework I can pull known properties of certain pages, for example Crude Longsword's attack is 0 and its weight is 8 and it's icon (if any) is Crude Longsword(These values here are not static and will change if Crude Longsword's page changes). Looking for comments and support on how this can be improved/standardized.

Currently, I've only started on equipment (adding infobox and navbox on the side). But it can potentially be expanded to other things like Buildings (e.g. make it's aspect influene queriable from wiki, so we can make a "smart" infobox that generate the +XXXXXX influence in the infobox without having to laborously capture specific image for the aspect influence for each building like I saw poor guy is doing). Other possible object/infobox combo could be crafting recipes. (separating recipes from the products will make it more flexible in case recipes next time start to have multiple products, or that the recipes for each product may not be limited to 1)

For those interested, internally, it uses the #switch parser function. Also by using the includeonly and noinclude tags properly, when we visit an object's page, we can see nicely formatted crap, but if we use the page as a template, we can call up it's known properties/attributes. - Spheris 02:34, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Currently "tainted" object types (with "ez-infobox")

Other possibilities

  • Non-equipment items
  • Traits
  • Buffs
  • Quests (I think this may need to put approaches into different subpages, since each approach is essentially a unique quest)
  • Buildings
  • Territories
  • Achivements?

Spheris 08:07, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox Edit


  • Equipment: currently working on Template:Infobox equipment2
  • Recipes sample at Template:Infobox recipe
  • Buildings
  • Collectibles/Harvestibles (may want to split into Ores vs Herbs)
  • Territories
  • Hero Professions
  • Special Sims (could be merged with Heroes)

Navbox Edit

Will more or less correspond with the Infobox items

  • Template:Equipment (prob should rename this to same standard prefix.... maybe {{Navbox equipment}}
  • Buildings (should include both placeables as well as default)
  • Collectibles/Harvestibles (may want to split into Ores vs Herbs)
  • Craftables (split into Cooking tree (pot/oven/still), Crafting table and Forge and Anvil. hmm do we include "whittle" creations?)
  • Territories


Collecting Reusable Icon Images Edit

A lot of icon images are reusable, but at the moment, they are not organized nor catalogued. I am proposing that we set up some page and add galleries of all the reusable icon images in their respective category. But I don't know a good place to set up this. Any ideas? --Spheris 12:58, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I argee, I wanted to set up a gallery of all the quest objective icons, but I have no idea where to do this. Flamedrome 15:17, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Collapsable Tables, JS and CSS Edit

I tried to integrate [[1]] but have no permission modifying Mediawiki:Common.js. Can one of those with access (admin?) take a look at this and see whether we can incorporate it? I was thinking of using it to create a spoiler box template which will hide spoiler information by default, but can reveal them on a click.

BTW, what is the usual/accepted practice of doing changes to important stuff like Common.js and Common.css ? (The other issue I was having is how to put in the css styles to make updated navboxes look better). And on top of that, is there somebody who is in charge of wikia styles in general? Found that a lot of the styles are copied from default, and would be nice if they can be modified to fit TSM better. Thanks for reading.

--Spheris 02:27, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Restyle special templates Edit

Wanted to restyle Template:Stub but found that I couldn't edit it. Who can I approach wrt requests to change protected pages? --Spheris 04:50, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

we need a styling and content guide Edit

We are getting more contributors, but things are also getting messy. We need both a styling guide, to keep the consistency of the style of the wikia to prevent it from becoming a web scrapbook. We also need a content guide especially for people who are new to wiki-ing. I've seen many recent cases where subjective comments mixed are with objective facts and inappropriate/wrong use of wiki resources (like categories). Things are getting messy, and will get worse when the community grows without some guidelines. For example, pages of certain same class gets fanciful sections which are different for every page and use different formatting, not to mention mixed up information. It is OK to put things down as first draft, provided it gets cleaned up later. Can put up something to be debated and refined and finally for people to follow? Also, if any of the experienced guys sees things that need to be cleanup, please put a {{cleanup}} reminder so that we can try to tidy things up after we have some guidelines. (I don't want mean to be negative here, but if anybody don't know whether you should do something or not, don't, or least ask around first. The last thing we need atm is the wiki-management template being used "creatively" as

Also, for the admins, who can I approach regarding requests to protected files and such? Or is anybody managing the CSS? (pages like these should not be open to edits by too many people, btw, the main CSS page should be protected.) Also, is there any possibility of requesting for mediawiki extensions from the mediawiki dev pages? --Spheris 14:45, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Currently, all admins except Darth and Godof. are contactable. From what I can see, most are working at The Sims Wiki on the game for now, but I'm sure they'll reply to your questions or requirements. --Zombie talkblog 14:51, April 7, 2011 (UTC)
I hacked together a first draft, shamelessly copying chunks from Wikipedia's policy guides, to get the ball rolling. All active editors and admins (if you are free), please visit and add on to it a this subpage /GuideDraft. If there is any disagreements to the content so far, please discuss in the sub-page's talk page.
--Spheris 11:02, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

What do you think? Edit

okay.. So I added a new background, It looks sort of nice I think.. And I have set up a fan creation thing as well as a FAOTW award system, This will encourage users to create stories about their kingdoms, characters and little fan wars between the Jacobans and Peterans. Then every week a story or article will be awarded FAOTW. I also created a youtube channel, and created a account on the Sims Medieval Forum so we can get more people to come. Should all admins be able to use the Sims Medieval youtube channel? Because I'd be happy to give the admins the username, password and stuff.. Also If you don't like the uh background I'll change it. I just thought it would be nice.. Oh and also, I realise fan fiction and fanon is not allowed on this wiki, But I was looking at the Sims Medieval Forum and theres lots of good story tellers and thought we could welcome them to create stories, series, and stuff to the wiki. ALso.. we could encourage them to create like little fan groups on this wiki like Guilds or stuff.. Such as the Story Telling guild or something. Sorry if this message is so long I just have so much stuff to tell you all! haha

Life11 ( admin )

oh and also I added the comments thing so users can comment on pages.. Im sorry if I added a lot of stuff with out consulting others, Its just we are such a small hard working community and I thought all these new additions might attract others. If you dislike my ideas, I will kindly redo everything I did. oh and also.. I think all the admins or burs should have their own type of signature, ( so we know who is a bur and whos a admin )

also all admin or bur comments should be a special colour so it stands out from other users comments, AND when this wiki gets bigger we could have Admin Deputies, Admin Deputies wont have admin powers but they must report users that are vandals, rude, or breaking the rules.

Life11 ( admin )

by the way.. I also changed the names of most of the achievements to fit the medieval times, Im planning on getting medieval pictures and changing the pictures as well. And I have a general coding question, is it possible to make a certain page have music on it? So whenever someone goes on the Main Page, the sims medieval theme song could come on..

anyways sorry for all the comments..

Life11( admin )

I have to say, I totally disagree with some of the changes you made, though I appreciate your enthusiasm. First of all is the most obvious: the background picture is clearly watermarked with "iStockPhoto", which looks really bad, and it's not exactly illustrative of The Sims Medieval. The old background can use some change, but I'd revert the changes to the background until we decide on. In addition, the new color scheme makes certain things hard to read, for example:
Write Something Quest Objective Note
The white text on this template is difficult to read.
Fan content I am partial to; it's not really my thing but it could attract new editors to the wiki. However, we must be very sure to keep it separated from regular encyclopedic content. I would suggest giving it its own namespace (à la User: and File: and such) because that would be the most orderly way.
As for the comments feature, I do not believe this is appropriate for encyclopedic pages. It may be valuable on fanon pages, but I don't see a real purpose on actual informative articles; that's what the Talk page is for.
And then a last note on your idea for music--there's two problems with that. For one, it's generally considered bad web practice to have automatically playing music, it'd be somewhat annoying to most. The second problem is that any music from The Sims Medieval is copyrighted; we can't use it on the wiki without express permission.
I know it may be hard to have a discussion on this wiki, because there's not too many active editors, but please don't make such drastic changes without consulting others. I don't really have any authority on the matter, of course, but I'd like you to revert the changes to the color scheme and background while we discuss it. As an admin (congratulations on that) you have some special powers, but the old Spiderman adage is quite correct in that "with great power comes great responsibility". DarwinSighs 19:02, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

I'll revert the background if we decide to, But in the meantime I think we should use this new background ( unless we decide to keep it )

The pattern is from the Sims Medieval, and if any Admin would like to change it I'd be fine with it. I just thought this background would be good while we continue to decide. On another note, we need to get more active members. I think we should go on the Sims Wiki and message people about this wiki.

About the fanon, We could create a catagory such as " Fanon " or " Fan creations " And put a notice on top of every fanon page such as a banner or something. And I thought the comments might make the wiki more alive so people could chat with each other about Fanon, and such. We could encourage rivalry between Peteran and Jacobans to make the wiki more interesting and well thats really all I have to say. 21:25, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Chatting about fanon is fine, but that's not appropriate for encyclopedic pages. I don't know whether it's possible to only enable the comments section on *some pages*, but that's what I'd prefer. The Jacoban-Peteran rivalry idea is interesting, it would certainly make things a bit more lively. As for the background, we don't really have an established process of decision-making here (are we a democracy with voting or do we look for Wikipedia-style consensus?), but you know my opinion on the matter. DarwinSighs 22:15, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Active Users Edit

Okay.. So I've been looking around the sims wiki and they have edits done every few minutes! Theres always like 15-50 active users on at the same time! The problem with us is.. The Sims Medieval is ONE game that in my opinion gets boring real quick. We should make this wiki about other things, such as....Sims 2-3 medieval themed cc. The Sims 2/3 medieval custom content community is very large. So I think we should try to get them to come over here. ALSO the Sims Medieval forums, They have lots of story telling fans ( lots of active users ) we should try to get them to come over here and use our forums and all that. This wiki is growing, yes. But is it becoming well known and big? No. We need to get our wiki president back over here. God of the Sims needs to be helping us. Its her wiki, We need our wiki president here helping and guiding us. Shes suppose to be our sort of organizer! Well where is she? So please! We need to try to get more active users here. Fanon will attract many users, but so far it seems that im the only one contributing to it. So.. Our current goals are to fix pages, link stuff... etc. Scratch that! I think our main focus should be getting the Fanon set up and fully running, get our fanon community here. and of course get bigger!

Life11@admin 02:39, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think we can really branch out into things like medieval mods for other The Sims games. The information is far too general, and we couldn't really relate it to any of our current wiki content. Fanon can certainly help our user account, but this is a wiki, not a fanon site. Our main focus must always be to provide encyclopedic content, or else we lose the entire purpose of the wiki. There's plenty of fanon pages already, after all. As for activity, I don't think we need 15-50 users online at a time. We have a much smaller scope, and activity in itself is not the point--we're supposed to provide informative content. DarwinSighs 18:28, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Well.. I think we should try to not become a factual site, but become a active supportive community AND a factual site. We should do 50% fan made stories/guilds and stuff and 50% factual. The Wiki is suppose to be fun, and if we just provide facts I don't really think we will get very far. Active users make the wiki very fun and entertaining as you create friends, achieve more, and work on a team ( from role playing/fanon )

My idea with the peteran jacoban conflict was to try to get more Role Playing on the wiki. As that could be our key to success!

Considering there is a large medieval community in the Sims, I think we should try to offer Sims Medieval mods along with other sim games mods that give a medieval theme. As far as I know, Theres already 20-30 sims medieval mods that.. *age up children, *more adult content, *allow the game to become a sandbox. *level up during the quest "Freetime" ( I think this mod has some side problems )

So if we expand our interests a little we can grow big. I am a active player on Voyage Century, EVE Online, Simcity 4, Tropico... and I can just tell you this, Theres a lot of role playing in the community. OUR goal on this wiki is to create a active, friendly, community of fellow simmers that share the same interest. I think that by the end of this year we will become a lot larger and a more active wiki. BUT I think that will only happen if we try to create a role playing, fanon supporting, factual, community that offers facts all the way down to Role playing.

Life11@admin 21:28, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

This place will become a mess with fanon. If we want fanon, we should ask wikia to create us a fanon namespace, like the main Sims Wiki. ~>ђ (tคlкς๏ภtгเ๒ร) 00:12, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

New chat room Edit

Sims Medieval wiki chat room I think its a little better then the current one we have, So.. Do you think we should use this one? And all admins will become mods. And I was thinking we could have a big link to it on the background of this wiki so whatever page you are on you could just click the link. Life11@admin 01:19, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

New editor Edit

A new editor has been redesigned b wikia. It will eventually become mandatory and it's still inactive on here, in my opinion I think it should be made into activity as it's better to get to used to it now than later when we are forced to use it. That may be worse for the community. Also, as this is an experimental phase it's the best phase to report glitches and suggest improvements to wikia. What do you all think? Can I activate it for you? Thank you! --Guilherme GuerreiroThanks rose(talk here) 17:12, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

I have activated it. Any oppose feel free to express it. --Guilherme GuerreiroThanks rose(talk here) 14:56, July 12, 2011 (UTC)
This section should be considered closed - the editor is now mandatory. ~>ђ tคlк 07:21, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Merge Edit

Due to our slowly decreasing computer, I would like to ask for community input on a merge with the Sims Wiki . We were in the proccess of a merge before, but I feel that now a merge is needed.

Life Matters

It's already been discussed before, and I doubt the reasoning for it would have changed. As the only active bureaucrat, I oppose. —ђ tคlк 04:02, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

Any one know what the Magic Crystal does?


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